"I'm a poor, drunken orphan with nowhere to go but the
grave," wailed a waifish and non-plussed Mr. Chris Funk as
he lay supine by the railroad tracks. The crate of records
he had been cradling in his nubile appendages now lay in
pieces on the ashen ground, his complete collected
recordings of sixties psychedelic luminary Rick "Paisley
Dave" Rigmore scattered hit her and yon like so many dead
leaves beneath a diseased elm. Noting his neglect to
accredit this phrase to its rightful owner, chief engineer
Jenny Conlee, her accordion neatly strapped to her back,
stepped lightly from the caboose and corrected his
negligence with the aplomb only an immigrant Hungarian
could muster: "Dylan Thomas, sir! Please move along!" But
it was too late: an indelible bond had been soldered in
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Review about The Decemberists We Both Go Down... TOGETHER? | Reviewer: VanDee
------ About the song We Both Go Down Together performed by The Decemberists
This is not a song about joint suicide.
This is a song about an insane rich boy who's fastened upon a poor girl too hungry or too scared to say no to him. Having taken sexual advantage of her, he decides that they're "in love" and that the logical next step is a joint-suicide. Regardless of what she wants, that's what he plans to do.
Proof? He makes his upper-class contempt for her quite plain in his descriptions of her ("a childhood rough and rotten"... "a tattooed tramp"); he "lays her down" (notice how she doesn't even lie down herself, he throws/pushes her down); she "wept" (who is HE to say that her "soul was willing"? How can he possibly know that?); in the bridge we hear "But I hold your hand" (indicating that he's grabbed her so tightly she can't possibly get away).
We have no proof she agreed to this joint-suicide. Just because she's with him doesn't mean she loves him: the song states very clearly that they are not social equals and, as a poor girl, she hasn't much freedom to refuse the attention of someone rich.
So the moral of this song is... Always try to hear BOTH sides of the story!
Yuuuup | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song O Valencia! performed by The Decemberists
This song, along with Yankee bayonette are my favorite two songs by them. The decemberists are one of the most talented, influential. And unique groups in the music scene. I absolutely love them. (: -mattisen(;
Some of the lyrics are a little off from what is in the cd booklet. As far as the reviewer who says that the band sings poorly, well I do not agree, they sound great and great live as well. It is a folksy song, it is supposed to sound that way. I recently retired from the Army and I earned the Combat Infantryman's Badge while I served, not bragging just saying who I am and I can tell you that it makes me think of some of my soldiers who were killed and their wives and children still living and it moves me to tears. It struck me the first time I heard it like no song i can remember and the lyrics are truly beautiful and hopeful despite the tremendous loss they convey. I had never even heard of the Decemberists until I just happened to see this on Austin City Limits. That one performance left me literally speechless and with tears. The song is great but the lyrics could stand as a literary work of rare significance on their own. I rate it 5 stars and it is certainly one of the most moving songs I have ever heard.
Looking at the lyrics this is really deep yet scary revenge song. I like the darkness of the song it kinda just sets the scene of madding sadness. Um, this song is just one of those I'd listen to when I'm thinking pessimisticly
Great song | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song O Valencia! performed by The Decemberists
Found the name of this song on the blog which said alternative rock songs you must have and i just downloaded it and OMG Its very sweet song, the band seems very brilliant though i dont know very much about them, but keep rocking the decemberists
I agree with the reviewer who said the song made him weep. It's not obvious, but sublime and gorgeous. What a love story - the dead soldier telling his wife of the dead swollen in the fields of Manassas, and she responds, her "own belly big with child." Hard truth, repeated again and again and again. And today.
Great song! | Reviewer: Anna
------ About the song The Rake's Song performed by The Decemberists
Ah, the Decemberists have done it again!
For all those worried or critical of the song`s message- this comes from "The Hazards Of Love" album, which tells a story that has to be listened to straight through to get the full story. The Rake`s Song gives a backstory to one of the brutal villians- and in a later track, the children have their revenge! Please don`t mistake a brilliant piece of songwriting for a morbid expression of the band`s alleged inner traumas!
Excellent | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song Eli, The Barrow Boy performed by The Decemberists
I love that the Decemberists can take such a morbid theme, of a lower class kid who only wants to make his love happy even after death, yet make such beautiful music to go with it.
One of the few bands I can appreciate on a story/lyrics level and their music. This song is a great example.
Haha | Reviewer: Julia
------ About the song Odalisque performed by The Decemberists
this is a prevoius post that people should see..I didn't write it but it makes sense to me.
Research | Reviewer: chaim | 10/22/07
After looking up the word Odalisque, I found this: "The French term odalisque derives from the Turkish-Ottoman word odalik, which refers to a female slave owned by a Muslim male as his legal concubine," but I've also seen that an odalisque had a status even lower than a concubine, and could only rise to the concubine status by being skilled in a number of "arts." Apparently, this position still exists and women are frequently trafficked to the Middle East and North Africa from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Nepal, where they are drugged and abused and have a life span of about two years after being sold. Although I can't find any mention as to whether Jews have been used in this position in the past, I very much doubt that Colin Meloy just put that reference into the song for kicks, especially knowing his knowledge of obscure history. My best guess is that he heard of a specific case in history when Jewish women were enslaved and abused and decided to write a song about it, which is not at all unlike him. I'm going to have to say this is not anti-Semitism. Simply storytelling.
What??? | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song The Rake's Song performed by The Decemberists
To quote the fucking imbecile:
"I really like the beat and you can dance to it, too bad the band sucks. What kind of childhood trauma spawned these lyrics? I hope that it is about a historical figure. If not I hope that your children killing ideas never come to fruition. Please think before you speak, some people don't enjoy infanticide as much as others. In the future please refer to more tasteful musical collaborations such as Gwar in order to more accurately judge the legacy you leave."
GWAR?? Are you comparing the brilliantine collaboration of amazing musicians to that disgusting excuse for music? Gwar is fucking awful! Your telling me that you would rather listen to a bunch of retarded heroin addicts sing about fucking women with fish as opposed to the intellectual projections of a lyricist who's primary essence is at least ten million times better than that of said fucktards in absolutely ridiculous outfits? You piece of shit, I hope you choke on your own bile.
FUCKING INCOMPETENT,honestly!
Rebel yell | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song Shankhill Butchers performed by The Decemberists
The Shankill Butchers was the name of an Paramilitary gang in Belfast, IRL in the mid to late 1970's. This gang was nortorious for late night abductions and murder of Irish Catholics in the county of "Shankill". The name was based on the fondness for using stolen butchers knifes and cleavers to torture the victims before killing them. This gang was led by Lenny Murphy who was executed by the IRA in 1982... this is my all means a "rebel song" Learn history
hahahahahaha!!!! | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song The Sporting Life performed by The Decemberists
yes, our "modern society" totally places too much emphasis on sports! hilarious! look, lady (you're obviously a lady), athletics are literally as old as war. this song is not some social commentary on the emphasis of sports in society. unless "mariner's revenge song" is a commentary on the nature of a humanity's capability to withstand personal torment in order to ensure the torment of another. or maybe it's just a STORY. colin meloy is well-versed in classic literature and was raised on bands like the pogues - another story-telling band. but hey, whatever, go as far down the rabbit hole as you'd like.
Re: doktor faustus | Reviewer: CoryJ
------ About the song We Both Go Down Together performed by The Decemberists
It isn't that he raped her. It isn't implying that at all. It is saying that it was her first time having sex. A girl will often cry when it is their first time because it is painful and also an emotional rush. She wept because of the pain and the emotions, but she was willing deep down. So her outward emotion really wasn't symbolic of how she really felt.
Another line that suggests that she is a virgin is "My sweet untouched Miranda."
Gement: A tramp just means that she was homeless. Not that she slept around a lot. So calling her a tattooed tramp is just another away of saying that she was very poor, and it is a testament to the character of the character that he looks past her poor background and sees the girl for what she really is. Of course it is a murder suicide. It is a murder-suicide because the girl and guy cannot be together because his parents wouldn't allow him to have a poor girl for a wife. So they plan to kill themselves. There is nothing unreliable about the narrator at all. He says, 'She is poor, I am rich. We can't be together so let's kill ourselves.' Pretty straightforward really.
Alright?! | Reviewer: Nicole
------ About the song The Rake's Song performed by The Decemberists
Good sound and all. But I'm very disturbed by the lyrics. Why would you write a song about killing your children?! I don't know what the Decemberists were thinking. But good for you for doing something out of the norm.
mr.magorium | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song The Mariner's Revenge Song performed by The Decemberists
This is a shining example of what full talent in both music and songwriting can produce. Very good. Epic. Amazing. Great. It's one of those songs that you can't stop listening to and the lyrics give you chills.
My take | Reviewer: doktor faustus
------ About the song We Both Go Down Together performed by The Decemberists
Interesting comments here, for the most part.
"I found you, a tattooed tramp
A dirty daughter from the labor camps
I laid you down in the grass of a clearing
You wept, but your soul was willing"
Not only is there a chiasmus created between the narrator of the song and the female of whom he sings, but there is also a fairly plain suggestion that he raped her.
The question, then, becomes to look at other tracks to search for a continuation of this narrative, specifically searching for some element of motive (that likely will never be found). As I have said, one interpretation of this song is that the prodigal speaker rapes a member of the demi-monde, and then (for some reason/motive), jumps off a cliff with her. The line "my parents will never consent to this love" really confuses the path of the narrative, to me. I would say that line is the biggest detractor from the rape exegesis, because parental approval seems the last thing a rapist is likely to be concerned with. And, of course, the line makes it sound like he is indeed in love with the demi mondaine...which raises another huge question as to what this all means. In sum, what seems most likely is that the line about his parents is not literal but is rather an oblique reference to the joint suicide.
Further, I disagree with the notion that "I come from wealth and duty, untouched by work or duty" is an insulting remark for its speaker. Could it be insulting? Sure. Does it, in this context, act as insulting? Hardly.
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner... | Reviewer: Valence
------ About the song The Mariner's Revenge Song performed by The Decemberists
Excellent tune. The band knows how to captivate an audience, that's for sure.
But of course, they must; for the unknowing the song was influenced by Samuel Taylor Coleridge's epic poem of sorts 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner'.
The Decemberists' spin on the concept is great, and the instruments used (mandolin, tuba, guitar, accordion) are all expertly played.
Just a great example of quality art all around.
Great song off a brilliant album | Reviewer: Mike
------ About the song The Rake's Song performed by The Decemberists
@justin...You really liked the beat and you can dance to it? Whatever dude. As always a clever story perfectly told with dramatic music backing it up. The whole song cycle of the album is so perfectly done it is like a modern day opera. The Decemberists are really an amazing and under rated group of musicians.
I read somewhere that this medley (also, I think, some other songs from this album) were based on William Shakespeare's 'The Tempest'. There's at least one direct reference in this - in "Come and See" it mentions Sycorax, who was a witch and the mother of the man/fish creature Caliban.
Of Angels and Angles | Reviewer: Rito
------ About the song Of Angels and Angles performed by The Decemberists
This song is so beautiful and has such a soft feel to it. The Decemberists are my favorite band, and the sound of this song is a good contrast to some of their other music. They pursue admiration so well in these lyrics. C:
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