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Witchcraft? Excuse me? | Reviewer: Ryan | 3/5/09

I don't think this song would be about witchcraft... XD
That sounds like a drug-induced conspiracy theory. Find someone that doesn't spike your stuff, man XD

Anyways, amazing song from an amazing artist (:



ummm..... | Reviewer: Anonymous | 3/2/09

this song isn't about vampires or dumb crap. if u follow within temptations music enough and see the meaning behind all the songs u will see this one clearly. she is talking about a sparkling angel.. fallen angel....the sparkling fallen angel... the light bearer Lucifer. dont be dumb to the meanings of these songs ppl. its dark poetry (or black poetry), dont be dumb..open ur mind up and u will see. the howling, truth behind the rose, solemn hour, ice queen, forsaken, ect.......all are talking about the same thing. listen to the songs as if she is talking about the end of the world...or deals done..or things to come..and listen to them in that context and as she were to be a witch. she plainly states it in her songs in ways that are easy to see if ur mind is tuned to such...be careful what music u kids are listening to, cuz being as u dont understand the full meanings of these songs ur minds can and will be easily washed to a way that u will not know...few of u that read this will understand the way of which i am speaking, but many will not simply because you are cattle among the rest...if u dont agree, if u dont see it, if u cant hear it....then u are dumb and just need to stop listening to WITHIN TEMPTATION all together. the name of the band should say enough. be careful what u listen to and follow kids....u might be doin more harm listening to music that sounds good to your ears than not listening to the music that does not



C E Slyers needs some literature lessons | Reviewer: Rose | 2/25/09

Ok, CE, I'm going to say this once, let's hope your tiny brain can comprehend this. Bella IS a Mary Sue. What is a Mary sue?
A Mary Sue is, in general, without realistic flaws...
Some generally agreed upon facets: she is always stunningly beautiful... and often completely unaware of the fact that all the boys are falling at her feet. She is generally created for the purpose of getting with/being the True Love of the suethor's favorite canon character.

Basically, Mary Sue is supposed to be unbelievably sweet and innocent, but super sexy, and her only flaw involves woving puppies a widdle too much. Or being the author's favorite character with their "god" bending the world around them. Or both.
characteristics of a Mary Sue:

1. Is prettier/more talented than the rest of the cast, regardless of whether or not it's an original piece of fiction or a fan-made piece.

2. Gets all the guys (or girls if it's a guy) and doesn't face the same punishments or drawbacks someone with all of that talent/power would in a realistic setting.

3. If there are any downsides to their lives, it's never of their own making--someone or something else is always responsible. Much drama always ensues around their every coming/going, whether it's praise that they're there or constant 'Poor you,' for their melodramatic background.

4. Have hair/eye colors that are fantastical for the story's setting. This one is more acceptable for fantasy/sci-fi stories and is becoming less and less of a determining characteristic that can be safely relied on, the same becoming moreso now with character names. Different people on different planets, for example, wouldn't have the same given names or maybe even eye/hair colors as someone in this day and age from Earth.

5. Are always showing up to upstage the canon cast; in the cases of original fiction, is always doing something better than someone else without reasonable explanation.

6. Has and does every little thing to grand excess without any flaws and is often (but not always) a 'stand-in' or surrogate character for the author themselves.

So, is Bella Swan a Mary Sue? Let’s see, shall we? Is she beautiful beyond belief? Yes she is! Is she so sweet and adorable? I say so, don’t you? Gets the main “hot” guy? That would be Edward ya’ll and yes, she does. Intelligent? Well, if we disregard what Edward said about her being stupid, then yes she is. Mostly.

Don’t believe me? When she first arrives in Forks, the first day of school, she already has boys coming up to her wanting to get to know her better. That DOES NOT happen in real life.

The entire book is full of cliches-which I can explain if your tiny brain can't understand any of them.

Is Edward even a vampire? I doubt it. The only thing we see is that he "shines" alone, sparkles, which is gay beyond reason. He doesn't even have fangs people. NO FANGS!! That's number one in Vampire Laws.

That's just about the plot itself. I haven't even gotten started on her writing ablitites. (which are none) First off, if someone who doesn't even speak the language right questions Meyer's writing ablity-thinking it was some typos in translation because she doesn't speak english-do you HONESTLY think she is that good of a writer? I think not.

She has more adverbs on a page than should be on an entire book! She repeats herself over and over, not using a thesaourus unless of course it's there to describe how shiny a person is or how hot everyone is.

If you stil think Twilight is "the bomb" I think you need your head examined, but I'll just let you know more later on, since you clearly need it.



Dhampir | Reviewer: Christabel the Vampiress | 2/24/09

Edward is stupid for hating himself about feasting on the oh so sweet blood of society's scum. We are vampires, and animal blood lacks that sweet taste you humans have running throught your veins.

We DO NOT SPARKLE!!!!


And Mary Sues are hated idiot. Normally, a lot of people other than the romantic interest. And hating shopping isn't a flaw. Being extremely stubborn and prideful is a flaw.

And Edward puts us vampires to shame, we feast on mortal blood, not sleep with our dinner. Idiot boy.



A Song is a Song and Has Many Interpretations - and Bella is NOT a Mary Sue | Reviewer: C.E. Sylvers | 2/21/09

The song CAN be about Twilight, and Bella is not a Mary Sue: many characters hate her( i.e. Lauren, Jessica, Victoria, James, etc.), and she has several flaws - she is not perfect. She is insecure, she doesn't conform and hates shopping. Also, her choice to sacrifice her humanity is not an act that a cliche character would do. Also, Edward is anything BUT cliche - he hates himself not because he is a vampire, but because for a ten year period of the century he has been alive he killed humans instead of animals, playing the vigilante killing murderers and rapists, but later realized he was wrong and after eighty years still hasn't forgiven himself for it. His self hatred really has nothing to do with the fact that he's a vampire, but more to the fact that on his first day of HS he almost killed Bella, and about his dark past. I agree, the song is about betrayal - there is betrayal in Twilight, believe it or not - Edward promises he will never leave Bella but then he leaves her, betraying her trust. Andof course its love gone wrong - the song portrays the period where Edward and Bella's love is falling apart.

Of course, I'm not saying that the song is only about Twilight or even that it was intended for Twilight; I'm just saying that it fits the plot of Twilight (and if you haven't read Twilight, then you can't argue with that point). I'm sure the singer didn't base the song on Twilight - I am a poet and when I write poems I write poems about my feelings and experiences, not about someone else's novel. To me, the song reminds me of Twilight, and how it would feel if someone I was in love with left me after promising not to; obviously different people will have different readings of a song. To me, when analyzing or enjoying a song, my reaction as the listener is more important to me than what the song is intended to be.

I understand where you are going from, but you can't argue that a song can't be related to Twilight if you haven't read it. Sure, you know what the media says about it, but the media really doesn't (and never does) do a book justice. Yes, I like books that are quixotic in nature (idealistic and allows for a happy ending), but that does not mean that those books are absent of depth. Either way, HOW DO YOU KNOW??!?!? Please, answer that question for me.



Awesome song, but NOT Twilight | Reviewer: Rose | 2/19/09

Um... C.E. Sylvers, hate to break it to you-ok, no I don't, but still-Bella is a Mary Sue. Find out what a Mary Sue is first before you say she isn't. A Mary Sue is casified as someone who everyone loves, all the guys try to date her, perfect, flawless-but could be clumsy, sweet, innocent, gets the perfect hot guy no one else can seem to get, etc. Unless you don't know any english, that IS Bella right there.

Now, about the song, it's awesome-of course. If you really want the meaning for it, go check out the vid for it. It's not about Twilight or anything along that lines. I find it more about betrayal and what not. Love gone wrong. maybe death-which I like. ^^



Agreeing with Malandra | Reviewer: Tokala the Kitsune-youkai | 2/18/09

Well Mr. sylvester or whoever the fuck you are, Twilight is a load of bullshit. Angels isn't about Twilight, it was written many a moon before that piece of shitfiction. And yes, I've read your oh-so beloved Twilight. And I can tell you, that Ms. Meyers, wouldn't know a cliché if it bit her in the ass!
Want real good vamp fiction read the Cassie Palmer series, now thats a new twist on vampires!

Edward feeling like he has no soul because he's a vamp, blah! Cliché! That book is weak in my opinion. Mark Twain once said that adverbs is the sign of a weak writer, and Ms. Meyers is a weak writer in a dire need of a dictionary and thesaurus. And she needs to get rid of all of that she said-he said bullshit! There are other ways to get across the point that a character spoke. And have you even LOOKED UP the definition of Mary Sue? Don't give me this Bella is characterized bullshit! No new girl gets asked out by every boy on the first day of school, sorry ain't gonna happen.
You sound like that fucktastic Kataanger Malandra told me about so much. Trying to sound all sage like saying he used his oh-so mighty powers of analyzation to bash Zutarains like my dear friend Malandra, who only wanted to ship in piece. You need to pull your head out of your ass, oh wait, fergot. You have your fucking head so far up your goddamn ass you can't even pull it out! So wake up, if you can, from your yaoi-love affair with Twilight and realize that it isn't all that good. And if you just read it for the romance, read a real romance! Like Pride and Prejudice. Thats real romance. And FYI I know kataang one. I never watched Avatar but Malandra yacked my ear off. If you want good stuff, Naruto is the way to go!


Cya

Tokala the Kitsune-youkai



The Hamatria that led to His Downfall | Reviewer: Calliope Elizabeth Sylvers | 2/18/09

Malandra and all Twilight bashers, you can't say that if you only read the first three pages of Twilight and then just gave up on it. Bella is not a Mary Sue; she is characterized. The song is obviously about Twilight because Edward is a "Sparkling Angel" but also a fallen angel because he believes he doesn't have a soul; when he left Bella he shattered Bella and psychologically killed her - "took her heart" - and "decieved her" because he was lying; he loved her more than the world and he was writhing in pain from not being with her and planned to kill himself when he thought Bella was dead..therefore "the world [almost] failed him"...obviously, "it could have been forever" could have been a metaphor, but then again it could be about immortal love between vampires. Twilight is a shift in vampire lore where vampires cease to be dark creatures but almost heroic, or they can chose to be - thus, like this song, "sparklign angels". Twilight is anything but cliche - Bella sacrificing herself; Edward hating himself; mortal enemies working together (ww2 parallel/metaphor), etc. (email me if you want more proof if you want to argue.)

The song specifically, it says a lot about the difference between what is real and what is imaginary; what the narrator imagines the "sparkling angel" is and how he decieves her - it doesn't matter because he still saved the narrator of the song. The song reveals that the love of the narrator could have easily chosen a path that lead him for immortal or metaphoric imortal life with his love, but because of a fatal hamatria of his own, which the song doesn't specify, but could be self-hatred/masochism, lead to his deception and collapse of the relationship - obviously temporary or the narrator wouldn't still be referring to him as a "sparkling angel".

That was an analyzation of the song, nonbiased and not compared to Twilight. Please don't curse Twilight without reading it - you assume that its bullshit and quixotic fantasy, but that is simply the medium - me, as a literart scholar, at first was skeptical as well but I read it and analyzed it and now am obsessed with it and was able to see all of the messages, themes, and metaphors, targetted for an audience that would unconsciously pick up on them. Please give it a chance. I did, and I didn't regret it.

~C.E. Sylvers



Lies | Reviewer: Malandra | 2/11/09

First off ultimate favorite Within Temptation song, first song I ever heard by the band. Was watching an Avatar: The Last Airbender vid featureinv Zuko and Azula, and I think Toph.

But seriously, if you want to know the true meaning that the band thinks this song is about. Watch the fucking music video!


Twilight is a load of shit! Bella is a fucking Mary Sue, Meyers wouldn't know a decient plot if it bit her in the ass, and she can't worth a damn. I tried reading it but gave up after the first three pages.
Though dispite Stephen King saying Meyers can't write worth a damn, he still said that the reason it's so popular among tween girls is because of how the romance is protrayed.

Angels has nothing to do with Edward leaving Bella, thats just said to even link this song with crapfiction like Twilight. The song is about a crimial that lies to pretty girls and then kills them, the world failed him.

One last thing about Twilight.
Vampires DO NOT fucking sparkle. PERIOD!



WOW!!!!! | Reviewer: lalalalala | 2/9/09

I'm only saying this because other people have talked about it.I am also a Twilight fan but unless it's something about Twilight I don't go around talking about it so let's drop the subject please! Here's my real review.

WOW!!!! That was an amazing song.I was on Youtube looking up Death Note amv's when I came across it.I instantly loved it! It's a really great song!!!!!! :)





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