Atheism | Reviewer: Mike | 8/11/14

St. Augustine wrote:

"If thou hast been able to comprehend Him as thou thinkest, by so thinking thou hast deceived thyself."

And there is the major problem with theism(or specifically Christianity): if something is said to be unknowable then it can't be known to exist.

A response to trebor1940 | Reviewer: Brandon | 7/12/13

You're right, religious people do use their faith as a crutch for laziness, but their teachings usually look down upon that. At least from a Biblical standpoint, like you were saying, we are suppose to make the most of our lives to help others. What good is faith without works? None.

crutch | Reviewer: trebor1940 | 4/13/13

people who believe in religion or a god are really grasping at a straw. You must treat your existence here as the opportunity to enjoy life and help people where ever possible. Thinking there is something better after this life is just an excuse to not do as well as you should, because you dont have to, you will be rewarded afterwards. All of that type of thinking is just a crutch.

just an opinion | Reviewer: lukas | 3/31/13

Awesome song is what I would first like to say before I get myself involved in the bullshit drama of the internet. Okay atheist have their claim that there is no god and nothing other than what we can explain from my knowledge of atheism. It's awesome that these people are very critical and skeptical of what is going on. Makes them good thinkers. But why do you cast judgment on Christians and constantly hate on us. Don't you get irritated when that stereotypical christian starts berating you with judgement for not believing in what they believe in? It hypocritical. I also like to admit that yes I do believe in that "fairy tale" that there is an after life. Shit it might make me weak minded in some of your eyes, but I don't give a damn. The reason I believed at first was because I was brain washed to believe. I'll admit that straight from birth most christian parents make their kids christian. Not a bad thing from a christian perspective. But I had my doubts and started thinking for myself and stuck to my faith. Not blind lay though I've done plenty of research heard arguments from both sides of the spectrum. The point that I think atheism lacks is it cannot deny a creator. Evolution does not deny a creator. The big bang does not deny a creator. Our modern day lives do not deny a creator. Hell I believe in evolution and the big bang theory because it's logical. My final thought is the world would be just as fucked up without religion as it is with. People always find a reason to kill one another.

How sad! | Reviewer: Kirus | 12/4/12

Wow science! How great! They can explain evrything! Like the evolution of man! From being a unicellular organism to a well developed man... AMAZING... but can you remind me how these unicellur things created??? I think I almost forgot! : (

it scares the hell out of me | Reviewer: paola | 11/29/12

I love muse. their music is awesome and matt sings his emotions and feelings and thoughts...and listening to their songs and having this wonderful thing called empathy...I use their music to express my feelings too...that's what music is for i think. and now I even found out they are atheists like me...more awesome! this song does it all. Yeah because it's all about fear...fear of the unknown, death, pain...we are all born atheists ( sorry believers!) but then we build this sand castle of fantasy and fairy tales and afterworlds...but I am not so sure that believers aren't afraid to die...we are all born atheists and we all die atheists I read great reviews here, smart people that, observing reality accept the truth of evolution, that studying history know about cultures and miths, studying sociology and psicology know about the theory of mind, and its power...
and the other reviews? oh they are so a kid who believe in santa clause!!!they really make me smile...If they were as innocent as kids, I wouln't worry, unfortunately believers and the great powers over them really scare the hell out of me for the harm they did and still do to this world...

Let's just all try to get along | Reviewer: The preacher man | 11/21/12

This world is big enough for lots on opinions on the subject of religion and the afterlife (or lack there of). The key to survival is to agree to disagree on some things. If those in the middle east would take that approach this world would be a much safer place...

Muse is AWESOME | Reviewer: The Great God of Gods | 10/15/12

I really love Muse's tracks. They're the best.

Now, to the point of this post: To all the mind controlled zombies commenting here... Living in an alternate reality (or illusions), no matter how hard you want it to be true, won't make for the total lack of evidence. Grow up. Be a man/woman. Leave your imaginary friends and be good people on your own. You're NOT a worthless piece of shit like these institutions want to you believe. You don't have to prove anything to any god. Be real, be good, cut the crap, help each other, enjoy your life, enjoy LIFE. You're totally wasting yourself if you live in wait for a candy after death, plus that's kinda really really crazy since the chances of it happening are nearing absolute zero.

Or just read the Bible KEEPING all the parts you don't like. That should help a lot.

And if you think "yeah, but love.. friendship, etc.. where does that come from?"... well THINK! you can explain all of these VERY easily from an evolution point of view where you gain huge racial survival advantages for these behaviors. Hormones, brain structure, etc... Then you have to chose between logic or magic... theories or dogmas... as close to truth as you can be or total falsehood... Anyway... Learn stuff instead of seeking satisfaction with the knowledge of a single outdated fantasy book.

thoughts | Reviewer: Syd | 2/7/12

I don't think it'll help if I try to convince everyone of something. So I'll just say this:

I am a Christian and I believe that you go to either heaven or hell after you die. I believe that God wants us to join him in heaven, and has offered us the greatest opportunity to do just that -- to admit that we are sinners and that we all mess up, and then to follow Jesus because he's the way, the truth and the life.

The truth is, I struggle with my faith all the time. I also struggle with sin all the time. I have to make a daily choice to keep believing, because it gets very hard. I question the world because of all the terrible things that happen. I question God and wonder why he doesn't do things differently.

I think the two best things about my struggle are these: that God's truth stands up to my questions, and that he doesn't let go of me because I struggle to keep up with him.

Realy | Reviewer: Anthony | 12/25/11

I'm pretty sure NO Christians follow his guidelines, when you kill you disobedient teenage son, along with your non virgin daughter , and your homosexual cousins just like "GOD" commanded you to, then come back and say you are a real Christian but untill then, you don't follow his guidelines and yall with probably burn in hell like the rest of us,

God | Reviewer: James | 11/28/11

I am a young Christian and I believe that God is the creator of the world. I know that he is existent because I have been touched by his Love and my friends and family have been healed by him.

You really think we were created by to elements, those two elements cant create as intelligent creatures as us, proved by your good friend science and my good friend God.

You were told that by others that there was a big bang that created the universe. I was told directly by God that he created the universe and told by primary evidence, the Bible.

People need to explore the world a bit more instead of sticking to one thing and hoping no one proves you wrong. What's the point of not having a faith anyway, what's there to lose, your dignity, your pride?

Links to help you understand (if your brave enough to be proved wrong)

A rebuttal | Reviewer: gameferrit | 10/1/11

" When Jesus walked this Earth, he went preaching a new way. He shared his message, but he didn't necessarily try to convince anyone."

Really? Not until Jesus was there any mention of eternal damnation. There is no talk of hell in the Old Testament. If you didn't believe in Yahweh then you were fair game to be murdered or enslaved by the people of God but at least when you died that was the end of it. Jesus makes it quite clear that you don't have to believe but if you don't then you'll be condemned to burn in perpetual torture. Some choice I say. Thankfully I'm an anti theist so I don't believe in your god any more than I do the gods of the ancient Greek or Roman or Egyptian or Mayan or Incan. You see where I'm going here...

@Taylor "How do you think we were created? Don't you think that it is more probable that our God created us than us being made or stardust?"

Air, grass, bugs and everything else on earth (and the universe) are made from atoms. The first atoms were hydrogen and a little helium, created in the big bang. These atoms of hydrogen and helium then began to coalesce by gravitational attraction until they formed huge clouds which collapsed under their own gravity, the huge pressures and high temperatures causing nuclear fusion. Literally smashing atoms together to form new heavier atoms. A star like our sun has only enough heat and mass to create atoms as heavy as iron. Larger stars can create heavier atoms such as gold. For the truly heavy atoms like uranium or lead, these can only be created when a truly massive star explodes at the end of its life in a supernova. These atoms then coalesce again after perhaps billions of years into new stars and planetary systems. So we are literally made of stars. This isn't just a theory, it's actually a physically proven fact.

Our solar system is around 5 billion years old and fossil evidence shows that simple single cell life arose around 3.5 billion years ago. No-one knows how, yet, but that's the beauty of science, someday we will have the answer. For around 3 billion years the only life on earth would require a microscope to be seen. Then, around 500 million years ago the first multi-cellular organisms arose. Through a process of natural selection those early life forms have evolved into what you see today. The vast majority of all creatures ever to have lived have already gone extinct, somewhere in the region of 99.9%. It's remarkable that any of us are here at all. What is even more remarkable is that every single one of your ancestors, right the way back to a singe cell amoeba, has successfully raised offspring whom themselves successfully raised offspring. That's some family tree. I find it far, far more awe inspiring to believe these facts than to believe some kind of sky fairy created everything in 6 days.

Now, I don't believe that an intelligent being created the big bang, but for the sake of argument lets just say it was. What makes you think that this being (your god)takes any further interest in what happens. The big bang was approximately 13 billion years ago. The bible can take us as far back as about 8 thousand years. The christian events all took place a mere 2 thousand years ago. That seems like an awful long time to wait before he decided to make himself known! Not the mention that your bible makes no mention of dinosaurs or trilobites. Or America or Australia. And why would he choose to make himself known to a race of mostly illiterate people in an obscure part of the middle east. Why not the Chinese, who had an advanced civilization. Or the Romans, or the Egyptions.

Finally, who isn't afraid to die? I have no fear of being dead because I know there is nothing after death. I'll be dead so won't know anything about it. I'm OK with this but I certainly don't want to die. Can you really say you're not afraid to die? And if there is a god, what if you've chosen the wrong one. Perhaps you wont go to heaven after all, but will burn in hell instead. Thank you, but I prefer my beliefs.

Anyway, none of this has anything to do with this song, which is awesome as are Muse in general.

That is all.

God of love? | Reviewer: Anonymous | 8/3/11

I remember when I believed in god...
I also remember when I believed in Santa Clause...

This whole God of love stuff is hilarious though everyone on here should actually pick up the bible and read it... I mean really read it start and Genesis and read straight through to Revelations cover to cover word for word... Then come back and tell me with a straight face that the christian god is one of love... Yes yes I know Jesus was a cool guy but really what does he have to do with anything I mean He died for our sins right? Or more specifically original sin...

Now what do people mean when they say original sin? well its written pretty planely in Genesis Adam and Eve eat the apple so they are cast out of heaven that was the 'original sin' which (and the bible says this) God puts a 'curse' on the offspring of Adam and Eve (Us) who had NOTHING to do with what they did but are punished for it anyway...

So anyway God sends himself on a suicide mission to die so that this curse is lifted? wtf? really? thats what Jesus died for? why not just you know... lift the curse... but anyway I get side tracked

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.

Exodus 21:7-11

A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

"-18- If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, -19- his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. -20- They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." -21- Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death.

mmm such a loving god... Yeah even if 'this' God were real no thank you

Thoughts | Reviewer: Rachel | 6/12/11

I am a Christian. I happened upon this page as I was looking up songs, and thought that I would share some of my thoughts. Some people here are saying that Christians are only kind and caring in order to get the reward of going to heaven. While that may be true in some cases, it is not what the Bible actually talks about. We follow the guidelines that God set down for us because we love Him, not to get His approval. We cannot earn his favor, but Jesus died so that we could be right with God. Also, in response to the story about the elder who was a rapist, I ask you to not let that color your view of all Christians. We are not perfect, and there are many hypocrites and people who use God to promote selfish behavior. However, that is also not in accordance with the Bible, and I think you should look to the Bible, and not to other "Christians" because no one is perfect.

Jesus died for athiests, too. | Reviewer: James | 6/6/11

I'll start this by saying, "I love every single one of you." When Jesus walked this Earth, he went preaching a new way. He shared his message, but he didn't necessarily try to convince anyone.

He could have offered more miracles/magic tricks to 'prove' his divinity, but he reserved them for only when it was appropriate or demonstrated love - healing the sick/blind, feeding the hungry - not merely as evidence.)

Just because someone disagrees with us doesn't mean that we can't be friends or that we did anything wrong. We can still keep loving each other. Jesus said the two greatest commandments were first: Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength, and second, love your neighbor as yourself. We are also told to go share the Good News - not persuade people but share. As believers, the best thing we can do is love and serve others. We should help the downtrodden. Feed the hungry. Clothe the naked. Speak up for those without voices. St. Francis of Assisi said (paraphrase) everywhere we go we should preach/share the gospel, and if necessary, use words. We should live our lives worthy of His name. We should be mirrors of his love. Vessels of his grace. If someone wants to know why we live this way, we should share. If they don't care, that's okay. Pray for them, just as you pray for anyone else - because you love that person...period. Not out of contempt or even duty. Because you love that person.

Personally, I struggle with my faith often, but that's okay. I don't think God sits there thinking, "Oh crap, he might figure me out." Truth, if it is indeed truth, has no fear of being found false. Personally, I am so thankful that I believe. I would feel so lonely when I'm alone with my thoughts. And to those who would say that I (or all those who came before me) invented God for those lonely moments - well, I have no argument against that. But that's okay. I haven't heard a strong enough argument against the existence of God, either.

Anyway, this was supposed to be a thread reviewing the song, not religion/faith/theology. If anyone is interested, I have always enjoyed Dostoevsky and CS Lewis. Dostoevsky in particular struggled with his faith but, like me, could never shake that feeling that God was right there next to him. I think God that I can't shake him.